- 01 October 2025 (94 messages)
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Trait maxing -
14 addresses remain
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163r5G4EvnzQpp9pR77qhKaNV9jXbLWHeQ -
1DUJ8YzDvMTSjKtU6mz5i17EKaBDZ5dAnR -
We are dropping addy in the chat 2021 vibes 🙏
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i work too hard muhfuckin pay me
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1LSbNkNGUidmQavQPqbqPR1MxqmHzwwEuY -
Hey guys fake commons site not functioning right?
Is it getting an upgrade ?
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It's functioning
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Amazing! bc1qnpszanef2ed9yxtqndvyxy72tdmnks6m28rn3d -
Hmm I was trying to dig into series 1 couldn’t click on it at all ?
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Ooooh ya
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14VhF5JGExMn4qkN2RiMqNvCwpqmFvbQaz 🙏 -
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173cE6ScUFCmBLCqZeG18ij6r9KHRPbAjC
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Feels like this is prime fake rare card material 👀🐸🤣 -
14Q7MPb23WL8LjMks6mU8ELGW8WsEfYoLT -
Holy god
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Obviously a sex worker bro
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1GUN4kFWjKrMF9kCXFMcTz3ByLF7HvftNo -
You know @XCERXCP did it already eh lol
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Yes there we go 🔥🐸
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I airdropped to 8,000 + addresses
If you have more than 1 XCP in your wallet, you should have it -
Amazing dude thanks 🐸🙌
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Oooh I see paid dividend on xcp so cool !!
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So only 8000 addresses have xcp !!!! Wooow
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82 addresses 5k XCP plus
164 addresses 2k XCP plus
434 addresses 1k XCP plus
642 addresses 500 XCP plus
929 addresses 250XCP plus
1559 addresses 100 XCP Plus -
Where or how do you get that info ??
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Dope card and very timely ser
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Thanks
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Should sub it to next commons drop
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Commons have lax rules really
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Nice never submitted any card to a directory
I’m always too busy trying to build -
Good to get it on different directory sites I’d recommend it if it’s just chilling
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But no pressure
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It’s AI slop, I’ve always felt I should put more effort in if going for a directory
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ai has ts place in the meme world ser but ultimately yer decision
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Heading on a space !!
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depends - scientists r working hard behind scenes tho
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one address remains
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Amazing man!
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1GotRejB6XsGgMsM79TvcypeanDJRJbMtg -
too late?
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nope!
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GIVEAWAY CLOSED - will send in a day or so!
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@codythecampbell here’s that process you just talked about https://x.com/logik185/status/1958872933088284992?s=46
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Been messing with sora this is kinda cool lol
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I'll send you one this evening @CT_wesual -
I blame Mike 😂 -
i got him dont worry, no more though - didnt realize legacy MPMA is an arm and a leg - for how much btc ive spent now issuing/burning/sending im hearing Charlie's voice in my head going "and you arent gonna sell them after that?"
all TURNINGPEPE sent, thank you for participating
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Does anyone remember the coin daddy music videos?
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Find a link
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Huge congrats on the Alcatraz mintout to one of my favorite OG’s @viva_la_vandal. Such an epic project and it was truly punk rock when it was a completely undiscovered masterpiece, and it will still be cool as shit when everybody is trying to get their hands on one.
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- 02 October 2025 (75 messages)
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Anyone looking to scoop some Nardo works? Got PEPEMUNDI through to FAKEGENESIS -
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Really appreciate you for this Dave!
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Appreciate you for picking up TIMELINEXCP!
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Yoooo! After I heard the story on the space earlier today… I had to grab a few
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Super significant to the very reason we are all in this chat today
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Oh it did mint out nice 😊
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Not to mention all the unique things you did. I love that man. Kane minting a stamp and a book, h and me minting ordinals and binding them on stamps… and everyone else doing super unique shit… I mean the FAKE directory has some very fine and very unique crypto assets… and FAKEASF supply slowly dwindling… they don’t know what’s coming… and when they do it will be too late
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Also @codythecampbell I didn’t forget about you check dm
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Wicked series !! Both rares and commons !!
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Fakes is really incredible, so much dope art
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Whoaaaaa absolute 🔥🔥 list of artists dropping from Jules curated!!! -
Truly OG artists. I feel like I’m a part of this ultra inclusive yet underground group of next gen artists, thinkers, and frog lovers. -
Thanks davesta -
Goated.
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gm fake frens 💛🐸
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yeaaaa
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🙂
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Audio book coming?
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Sure is
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I still need pepecash sponsors for my new fakes ,I'm ready to make deals ... kindly dm if you're interested..thanks 🙌
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gm ser
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VERY excited for this
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Have to have !!
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🚨GRAIL Alert🚨 Looking to sell for a more than fair price best offer regardless of price within the next 24 hours gets it. https://pepe.wtf/asset/WAGMIPEPE -
maybe elon dont like fakes? (sounds liek an x campaign...) -
looking to sell:
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absolutely nothing
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do not dm me nothing is for sale
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i am only buying more fakes
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u mfs
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lol, need funds to pay for my daughters school trip, otherwise I would not be selling it
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will sell family members, but not fakes..😜
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i wasnt poking at you i was just making a joke for myself
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no worries bro =)
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it is an insane grail and i hope someone here recognizes the deal and helps you pay for your daughters trip ❤️
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omg
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i am financing my labubu for a fakeasf
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opening bid 0.001
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PEPECHEEKS firesale on the dispensary -
@crypsiart ❤️
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thats family
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If anyone wants something in my wallet, feel free to take a look and make an offer on anything. https://tokenscan.io/address/15ycYAVaq93RvKZC6J3tTFRZwTejLoetrH
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unfortunately no.
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got an offer for .0023
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willing to throw this rarepepe in the deal, if offer goes above .003 btc. Current Highest offer on open sea is .0341 WETH. https://opensea.io/item/ethereum/0x7e6027a6a84fc1f6db6782c523efe62c923e46ff/30280475560150472208213645138363068652305265197298041824420244255961512759536?activityTypes=sale,mint,offer
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0.0021 was going to be mandatory..😭
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check DM
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If only there was a fake Arwyn collection
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What is Arwyn’s telegram handle these days?
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@couldpossibly_be_Arwyn
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Lmaoo bro has an un limited supply of handles
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all fake versions of himself.... and that VVD acount 🤣️️️️️️ -
no one ever asks me if im VVd... only if im carsonated... does anyone else get asked that?
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I have a bunch of handles if anyone wants to be like @Arwyn_Official
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@Might_be_Arwyn @Arwyn_Official @arwyn this man has so many fucking handles
- 03 October 2025 (36 messages)
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Many of them are impersonators, I think -
this man won’t stop creating new accounts and dming me assets i love him
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Arwyn actually was my favourite one 😂
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The beginning of Bald
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Hi fakes ,
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Definitely no buyers there lol 😂
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New card alert !
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Yo fakes
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Good weekend
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I dropped XCERPASS to 8,000 wallets that had 1+ XCP in them
If your wallet holds XCERPASS click the link below if you want a chance to win FAKEASF
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Cool think about this is if you issued a fake, you can just type in your fake and it will auto bring up your address.
Takes seconds, no signup, etc..
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Way cool
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fake friday
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DMs !
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🐸🐸🐸FAKE RARES🐸🐸🐸 (@FAKERARES_XCP) on X
L E T S D O S O M E E N T E R T A I N I N G Special Scientific Smells Good Set curated by @nicedayJules is now live for viewing and goes on sale at noon PST via @pepe__wtf These will be sold in 60 first come first serve packs THREAD BELOW TO INSPECT THE GOODS 🐸💐
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💐💐💐💐
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we need an xcpgofundmeme page
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here is the gofund me page 15ycYAVaq93RvKZC6J3tTFRZwTejLoetrH
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kek
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might be the sexiest thing since pamela vids.. 😍😍
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Is that a thing lol 😂
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This is fucking cool man
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Thanks, anyone can set up a slot to reward holders/collectors with free spins or they could even charge BTC per spin
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You missed the flowers series? Don’t miss the swim team 😜
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i missed flowers so i just buy swimmers now
- 04 October 2025 (31 messages)
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I thought we were anti-swimmers, lol
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Alphas get nuts chopped 🤣
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Oh nooooooo lol 😂
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@XCERXCP
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How do we use the free spins 🤔
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Go to the free spin link above, make sure wallet is connected and it will detect yer free spin, then spin it to win it 🌈
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Nah you just click login and paste in the XCP addy where you rcvd the XCERPASS asset, plus the pin you create… could be horizon, rpw, freewallet, etc, as long as it is counterparty
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Weird.
how do you know what your pin is??
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My latest Fake Commons UNIVERSALP S55 C7 is inspired by the legendary game Universal Paperclips.📎🐸
Issuance 21, find 4 available here:
https://tokenscan.io/tx/c2d15f5bc6e04c5b2d9299db38b9817f3347444147457194295dfab2701757be -
It’s fake tho
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It’s not loaded any more so you can point it at anyone right ? (My wife hates that joke) haha
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teheheh
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GM
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I can’t look away
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Hi ya everyone!
Kindly show some love to my dispenser 🙏
https://tokenscan.io/tx/5475762a12cd4b4220f5f69ef781a1feeca8378260569e4de7e68f63ee7c986a -
https://x.com/jakegallen_/status/1974527938847781354
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Who’s he talking to ?
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Monday October 13 is DJPEPE & FAKEDJPEPE bdays - throwing a party during the day with beats , guests and giveaways - details soon
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ill prob give away more of these low effort cards 😁🔥🐸
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Sora kinda fun
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You say low effort loll
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Any fake frens want Sora invites? I just got more invites
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Gm fakers
Satoshitask still available on multidispenser or probably swap with XCP. Dm is open for trading also
https://tokenscan.io/tx/3092750
https://tokenscan.io/tx/7481d6763aa8200c8765809debe2b4f61994472295e68d4137b7cf6cd2ef49a7 - 05 October 2025 (19 messages)
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A few goodies in there ! For sure
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Just a reminder - u can post yer links to on chain trades but to many scammers so no doing otc deals in here - no offense
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It’s a damn shame but let’s keep it fake and rare and here Boies and gerls
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/f bloomer
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We got a guy making us a bot but he went on a retreat and hasn’t returned lmao - very fake dev we hired
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Noooooo
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Thank u @crypsiart
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Hahahha
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Please ping yer fiend agin please
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The old bot went dead
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Follow instructions !
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- 06 October 2025 (12 messages)
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there is no second best fake rare
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Remember today guys
If your back is sore
It’s probably because
You need a fake rare for me !!
TOOFAKEYPEPE ONLY HAS 9 left ever
https://cp20.tokenscan.io/tx/172f4177fd1b96104bb9fa9a750e6103bcaf1ce2072e0d4621eda6e3926303c7 -
/f PEPEFISHBAND
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PEPEFISHBAND
0.00088669 BTC per 1
3/3
https://tokenscan.io/tx/767d592519f7aa1a94ba6e3d40905720642f782618f3d168b2dc1c40564dfee4 - 07 October 2025 (16 messages)
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@RemsterB
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And first
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COUNTERPARTY IS THE LAST TRULY SELF-GOVERNED DECENTRALIZED, COMMUNITY-DRIVEN PLATFORM ON BITCOIN -
Finally had a meme epiphany last night and it hit hard
I never fully understood the fascination with Pepe on XCP
Didn’t even really grasp what a meme was
It just never clicked
Then it hit me: Pepe is the ultimate centerpiece to express anything….happy, sad, angry, hopeful.
It’s the best medium to communicate a feeling or message instantly
A meme’s goal is simple, to express something simple to complex with an image
And Pepe does that the best
No colors, race, etc… Pepe allows all humans to pass messaging without influencing the complexities of human identity
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Pepe is the least racist messaging on earth and to think they tried to ban Pepe is crazy
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Now it’s time to submit a Fake
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FAKEASYOU
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Cuz I’m Jewish dog
- 08 October 2025 (16 messages)
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Haha dude I’m not Jewish, I was joking
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Whats up everybody, i know most of you already grabbed the paperback on Amazon. You made this book #1 so thank you.
Some of you WENT IN on the Scarce auction for the signed ones.
This dispenser is for frogs who dont have the token. Books get pulled off of kindle everyday, but permanent ownership on Bitcoin is forever.
Fake Rare S18 C13
First multimedia STAMP Novel
Short Story video in the card
420 of them exist.
10 left at meme price before it goes to Scarce for token-only auction.
It's 0.00069420
I know that's not nothing.
But it's also the only way to actually OWN this thing instead of just accessing it.
And it's technically pretty unique - nothing else like it on Counterparty.
This is my first book, but it wont be my last
https://tokenscan.io/tx/efdb8f53c3c28bd868cad5555e0eeedb2ebc2c6a0f8e158d1d04c11257699cb0 -
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Can’t wait for the fake lottery 😎
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Whatdis?
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next ethereum address to reply to this message gets a swimmer
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Justkeys.eth
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GM
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winrar gm justkeys
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is in ur eth addy
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Cool thanks again!
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yes! we need more swimmeers
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This is what the dispenser feels like when you buy fake literature
- 09 October 2025 (26 messages)
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In the time it took me to make this image... there are (at present count) 3 left in the dispenser.
i dont like to "tantalize" so i will just say if you are ABLE to get in on this one, and you like the card enough to want to own it... this will be a good one to get in on.
https://tokenscan.io/tx/efdb8f53c3c28bd868cad5555e0eeedb2ebc2c6a0f8e158d1d04c11257699cb0 -
cookin
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teasers
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Too late
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This guy is still available!!
TOOFAKEYPEPE
my first fake rare and physical combo set
Only 9 left
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If anyone cleans out that dispenser with an all 9 but they will get a big pack of other cards. Off the dispenser
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https://cp20.tokenscan.io/asset/TOOFAKEYPEPE
Sold out
If the top buyer wants to contact me I’d like to do something special.
Top holder has 5
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Someone was close with a 5 card buy much appreciated!kindly dm me
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Kane Mayfield 🏴☠️ (@KaneMayfield) on X
I told my wife i'm a prolific author now.. so I won't be taking out the trash She asked me to do the dishes and I just started doing the lyrics from Otis Redding "Tramp" Now she's all "ur supposed to be watching the baby" Join me Tuesday on @scarcedotcity for more CREATUREPEPE
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:D now I’m last lol
- 10 October 2025 (31 messages)
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teased pic was deleted - hope i'm not breaking fake rules
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GE
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gm fakers
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https://6529.io/my-stream?wave=359fbf19-1ea8-4021-abe9-722a627061c5
hey fakers, gm
if you active on 6529 , let's join this wave <3 more info coming soon ... -
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TDH
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One of one!
Symbol of value and decay.
Oil on canvas, framed and ready for the right collector. WTS DM if it speaks with you 💟 -
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I tried lol mobile while driving haha
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Tomorrow minting start for my first GPT collection!
Doge Father 1/1 inside the collection (the unique with pepe) 👀
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- 11 October 2025 (18 messages)
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if you bought PEPECREATURE from the dispenser check your wallet
you have been airdropped some GOLD
its my way of saying thank you
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Kane Mayfield 🏴☠️ (@KaneMayfield) on X
If you purchased the PEPECREATURE from the first dispenser please check your wallet... 1st Dispenser closing is a big deal, and this book is the most fun ive had in a WHILE... so thank you for owning the token @scarcedotcity sale next week so👀 2nd Editions book📚LIVE on Amazon
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RARE SCRILLA (@ScrillaVentura) on X
This cheap Ai flyer is the bottom but Monday we resume Uptober with DJPEPE BDAY PARTY FREE to enter Featuring @arwyn_official @KaneMayfield @zoomoguy @DJQbert & myself World Premier of TURN MY MEMES UP video FREE DYNAMIC DJPEPE BUST statues claim at the party only
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What did we get? 🤔
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check your wallet
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How would you guys feel if I built a fake telegram Pepe agent that knows all lore on Pepe.wtf 🐸 !! For the keks! I could also feed it artist info- not sure about market action.
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It would also be trained on chat history here 😜 and I would give it a Pepe personality
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What's His Name?
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ScrillaMcPepe
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Gm fakes, mint is live for my collection, who will mint the unique doge with the pepes? 👀 https://x.com/billynftees/status/1977071729064501656?s=61
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Fake Annie and Nardo still scientistas?
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- 12 October 2025 (15 messages)
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EVERYTHING IS FAKE
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3 weeks in?
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anytime now
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Opened a slot up with some fakes in it
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Nice site! I’m coming out with something similar-ish, but hadn’t seen your site till now. I’m using chainlink vrf for random seeds.
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Smart contract on Ethereum. Emblem vault assets wrapping fakes and rares.
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This slot is bitcoin or asset swaps on cp native style
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@XCERXCP
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One thing to consider is emblem isn’t currently updating new fake Rares (not sure what their plans are btw)
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Hmm 🤔 interesting
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I am talking to Jake and he hasn’t said anything about that
- 13 October 2025 (34 messages)
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I’ll find out and update
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I love that card !
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immortalized 😜🤣
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ya, both @logik185 and i asked Jake like 1-2 months ago (for the very first drop for series 18). we are still waiting on the update
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Yea would be nice as I have collectors on ETH that I’ve been wanting to bridge over to BTC.
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And easiest way would be through EV
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ya ive been wanting to EV several FAKEs
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I believe this is being investigated. It was brought up in the Slack.
FYI: Horizon Market just added user profiles. It allows artists and collectors the ability to showcase their collection and add a brief bio.
Here's mine: https://horizon.market/profile/mikeinspace
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RARE SCRILLA (@ScrillaVentura) on X
Free concert today in the new DJPEPE Warehouse featuring some beats and music from @zoomoguy and myself - exclusives will be played, dj sets from @arwyn_official & the legend @DJQbert & rappity raps from @KaneMayfield The DJPEPE card was created 9 years ago and celebrates the
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It’s all fake
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Love that you can jump haha fantastic
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Be cool to have a flame thrower TBH
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Numbers 1-9 on keyboard let u do dances and emotes etc
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I’ve got fambily thanks giving deal today but I’ll wear my old Dj company shirt in solidarity!
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And. Cp Kane hat
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might have 2 issue some of these as sub assets..
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Pepe you get me
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Crypsi just hammering the ai !
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I’ve been messing with Sora with my FAKE as well, funny as hell 🤣
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Lolol
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Your Sora is better. Than mine lol or maybe it’s the user ? Hmm 🤔
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I made this one for you Cody
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Fantastic!!
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Fake Jake
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- 14 October 2025 (22 messages)
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Good evening fakers,
I am trying to raise a few bucks, let me know if you see anything in my wallet you like, only thing not for sale is Scrilla’s Steve Ross
1EpVsfko3xu8mY8QZMyD34mwqqT42voteg -
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Look what’s live !!
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Fake After Hour
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Front row for a while while I could lol
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both Logik and i have asked them when they would be updating. we both have FAKEs we want to EV
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so when you say 'they haven't updated EVs' - does that mean you can't vault anything past series 16?
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pretty sure you can use generic CP EVs to valut them but they will not show up on the FAKEs EV page
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ya the card doesnt even show up on the list so you cant EV it in the official FAKEs EV collection
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aah ok - but i wonder if that is a series 17 and above thing - because i was always able to vault older fakes
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you can see them on OS or emblem.markets
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yes, its likely they just haven't added new assets
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ya thats no prob
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aaah - ok that makes more sense and it's the exact question i have for Shannon rn
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ya both @logik185 and i asked Jake a few months back. i mentioned it to Jake almost a year ago
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ok, i'll have an update from Shannon soon - he's looking into this now - hoping for good news :)
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lfg
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i def understand Hustle is their priority right now. they are not making much with EVs (maybe the Rares are doing fine lol 🔥)
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but its a biz and gotta focus on where the users are obvi
- 15 October 2025 (33 messages)
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Just sayin
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i agree but memes are chain agnostic
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not sure if these of any use 2 anyone??
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last one..
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well, one bit of good news - got blockaid to finally admit my app wasn't a fraud site intent on separating OG fake rare art collectors from their btc or eth :)
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What's your app called @rabbidfly?
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And while on the topic - I miss Dankset already. Any devs out there capable of hosting it?
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Yeaaa Anyone Spoken to @dimzayan lately?
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Anyone know who owns this wallet? They have some Alcatraz Swim Team NFT's. 0xbc5463e721559caec0e59a02171920ecc39bb6ec
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They also have a @scrillaventura IF YER IDEAS NEED BULLETS Nft
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has to stay a fake secret for a few weeks :) sorry - but soon
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“Added all new danks, commons, fakes, wojaks and coco, stamp updated will come later. Expect official announcement later today after testing.” - Shannon from emblem vault
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LFG
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#FAKESEASON
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Is the vaulting fee still $20?
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Also will be interesting to see if there is no problem vaulting the ones that are stamps or a full book interface with a stamp @KaneMayfield
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Is this you @codythecampbell
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not 4 over a year..
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dankset was the best explorer for artists RIP
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jake (@jakegallen_) on X
Late and overdue but nonetheless full fake rare support is live. With Agent Hustle and Migratefun development teams now operating with less immediate oversight we are now directing some resources back to Emblem to support the backlog of new collection requests, chain expansions,
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Apologies on the really long delay on this. Was a much larger and internally messy problem. Had to build some new metadata standards but should be good to go to support all future fake rares. Also updated danks and commons.
We’re putting some dev resources back to emblem so any new collections, product developments, expansions, or xyz please shoot Shannon, Adam, or myself a DM. Can also open a support ticket in the emblem discord. -
Thank you @jakegallen... we appreciate you guys
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lfg
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ooh. The ETH whales have something new to buy! LFG S16 - S18 dudes and dudettes
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- 16 October 2025 (157 messages)
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Nice! I will be dropping 1 copy of my FAKE soon!
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@codythecampbell is this your ETH address?
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🍆
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lol - was coming here to share Shannon news :)
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Happening now: STORYTIME: The Creature from Jekyll Island: Pepe Edition
Kane Mayfield 🏴☠️’s Space · 0 listening · Where live audio conversations happen
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Anyone in here want a sora code? I have 3 left -
Nope didn’t get a
If you ideas need bullets I wish ! Don’t eth much -
That wallet belongs to someone here, need to identify so I can airdrop their BTC wallet
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i sure do
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please and thanks
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I really want a sora code
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i heard they are adding a watermark upon export
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which is
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Oh dang I still have 3 if people need one too ! Sora invites
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thanks @codythecampbell !
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Oh dang
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